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		<title>By: jeqal</title>
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		<description>Top Characters.
1) the captains sidekick in Firefly is one of my favorite all time characters. The Actress should have made it in my top five actress category list.

2) 7 of 9, a vulnerable woman who has metal viruses in her blood stream that help her kick butt without flinching, yeah gotta love that. will tack on the borg to this.

3) Captain Kirk, Scotty, Spock, Ahura, the Dr. Et al.  I took Ahura out of top actress spot because it wasn&#039;t fair to everyone else.  But she would have been in the top 5.

4) The Undead from LEXX and forgot about the lizard slave from that series she too should have made it in my top 5.

5) The entire cast of Farscape although Crichton did get annoyingly shrill in the last episodes.  I often wondered if that was because he was the copy instead of the original.

6) The Nietschean (original) from Andromeda, kind of a combo of Dr. Smith meets Coolio and becomes a greek god.

7) the Invitros from Space Above and Beyond, will put in an honorable mention for the captain of the saratoga because of his guitar playing and introduction of a self into the show.

8) Talon from Earth the final conflict

9) the Dreaming Creatures from Earth 2

10) The Avatars from Andromeda

11)  Starbuck from Battlestar Gallactica, she pulled off the role of Starbuck totally she should have made it in my top 10 female roles.

12) Gkar -- and Londo, the entire run of B5 they were awesome.

13) Reevers from Firefly, they were scary.

14) Thief from Crusades was a character I would have liked to have seen again in another show.

15) The Great Machine from Epsilon 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top Characters.<br />
1) the captains sidekick in Firefly is one of my favorite all time characters. The Actress should have made it in my top five actress category list.</p>
<p>2) 7 of 9, a vulnerable woman who has metal viruses in her blood stream that help her kick butt without flinching, yeah gotta love that. will tack on the borg to this.</p>
<p>3) Captain Kirk, Scotty, Spock, Ahura, the Dr. Et al.  I took Ahura out of top actress spot because it wasn&#8217;t fair to everyone else.  But she would have been in the top 5.</p>
<p>4) The Undead from LEXX and forgot about the lizard slave from that series she too should have made it in my top 5.</p>
<p>5) The entire cast of Farscape although Crichton did get annoyingly shrill in the last episodes.  I often wondered if that was because he was the copy instead of the original.</p>
<p>6) The Nietschean (original) from Andromeda, kind of a combo of Dr. Smith meets Coolio and becomes a greek god.</p>
<p>7) the Invitros from Space Above and Beyond, will put in an honorable mention for the captain of the saratoga because of his guitar playing and introduction of a self into the show.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Talon from Earth the final conflict</p>
<p>9) the Dreaming Creatures from Earth 2</p>
<p>10) The Avatars from Andromeda</p>
<p>11)  Starbuck from Battlestar Gallactica, she pulled off the role of Starbuck totally she should have made it in my top 10 female roles.</p>
<p>12) Gkar &#8212; and Londo, the entire run of B5 they were awesome.</p>
<p>13) Reevers from Firefly, they were scary.</p>
<p>14) Thief from Crusades was a character I would have liked to have seen again in another show.</p>
<p>15) The Great Machine from Epsilon 3</p>
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		<title>By: jeqal</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeqal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delenn until the 5th season where she fell into a sort of limbo of the actress lost deal.  But she also said one of the most memorable lines in sci fi.

&quot;no earth ships who have ever faced a Membari war cruiser in battle has lived to tell about it save for one, he is behind me, you are before me............................  be someplace else.

and they all turn tail and run hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delenn until the 5th season where she fell into a sort of limbo of the actress lost deal.  But she also said one of the most memorable lines in sci fi.</p>
<p>&#8220;no earth ships who have ever faced a Membari war cruiser in battle has lived to tell about it save for one, he is behind me, you are before me&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  be someplace else.</p>
<p>and they all turn tail and run hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: jeqal</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeqal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way that Star Trek particularly Voyager borrowed from B5--spotted creatures (Neelix) American Indian (Chicote), Women having strong personalities and leadership roles, there 
was a lot more logic behind B5 then Star Trek, the Star Trek one shots are disconcerting in comparison with a logical story arc that has arcs inside that complete and move into another episode.  Much nicer to watch via DVD then Trek is.
The time frames were close, TNG was well before any of the others, but Voyager began in the middle of B5 and DS9 ran during the same time frame.  B5 began in 1993, the show being picked up then had a run til 1999.  The use of the 

although B5 did assemble a who&#039;s who of other sci fi shows.  June Lockhardt (who stole the show during her appearance imo), Will Robinson, Checkov, the kid from the Partridge Family, The second assistant doctor (Sugar Dirt communications officer on the Saratoga), Crusades thief had various cameo appearances here before Crusades, Dude from a few cult shows was the mimbari who sacrificed himself for Delenn, the list goes on, and don&#039;t forget Nurse Nancy (Mrs Roddenberry herself who made a guest appearance on the show), also the voice of chucky and serial murderer betazoid seen in Voyager was a serial killer turned monk in B5.

&quot;I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true&quot;
What elements do you think are borrowed from Trek?
&quot; Also, Crusades wasn’t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.&quot;

The writing in Crusades is pretty tough to get through, it shows in how the characters had to act.  Also the Doctor was terribly miscast in this show.  I would have liked a darker anthropologist too.  It did falter in it&#039;s story line, but it was better than nothing, however, it is the one DVD set that I have not been able to get through twice,  despite generous use of the fast forward.  I liked using the thief in the episode where they find the other sentient species who had been infected with a plague like the Drak plague.  And the air scooter chase was a great visual effect.  

&quot;To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow. It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A. And Firefly probably shouldn’t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.&quot;

Firefly only had one season 2002, which shows how truly great it was.  I was not fond of the actress who played the companion in FF otherwise it was a flawless cast.  Jayne was incredibly good.

The only thing that might have saved Crusades is killing off the Doctor and putting in there a woman who actually seemed to understand the pressures she was under,  I had a better feeling that she devoted more time to pedicures and manicures and her hair and make-up and tidying up then she did to any type of scientific endeavor.  Really hated her on Mars side, the first episode where she tries to act tough was incredibly bad.
Her attempts at physical fighting was worse than Lyta trying to punch a guy out mars side.  

I think the rest of the characters were salvageable as long as someone could come in that looked like a regular Joe and actually had a sense of what the hell was going on back in earth, instead of posturing.

So often we go along with female character casting because well that is how it is, but it doesn&#039;t make it good and it doesn&#039;t make for a rewatchable show or series.   Which leads me to top worst actresses in sci fi of all time. (not that the actress herself is bad but how the producers make her behave in the role is bad)

3) Counselor Troi (did Picard ever get the stick out of his rear long enough to listen to any advice she ever had as a telepath that wasn&#039;t already painfully obvious to the rest of the crew?)  I cheered when I thought they had killed her off in one of the movies (Now as an actress she is known as the nicest sweetest blah blah blah, ok that&#039;s great but still)

2) I&#039;m putting the Trill from DS9 on this because there is no way in holy hell anyone is going to convince me that a Klingon would marry someone who has been a man period.  I stopped watching Ds9 after their romance, and I thought the romance between he and counselor Troi was laughable, (blech)

1) Red Sonja  Brigette whatever, nuf said

4) The Doctor from Crusades -- her voice was so polite one wondered if as she was yelling at someone, that someone didn&#039;t just filter in a noise control that raised the volume only.

5) The Dr. from TNG Crusher -- she made no sense at all except as a former friend of Picard and someone who could tap dance really well.  She would have been dead within the first three years if she had been left to wonder nicely along in alien worlds.

6)  Whoever the hell the playgirl bunny was that Sorbo cast to replace Romy in Andromeda
&amp;7) Kevin Sorbo in Andromeda, let the women have their damn roles, you don&#039;t have to be everyone you wussy.

Best Actresses in the roles that they played.

1) 7 of 9 -- my favorite Voyager episode is the one where she is in charge of the stasis units everyone is put into.

2) Captain Janeway,  her performance as a captain was the best in the Trek franchise with the exception of Kirk, she went beyond best actress and is in my top sci fi actors.

3) Shane from SAAB, I do think someone without as many mannerisms would have been better but she was believable as Shane.

4) The entire female cast of Farscape including the bit players.  Chiana was outstanding, the episode where she slept with her lover&#039;s son and was caught was one of the most memorable and classic Chiana bits.

5) River from Firefly,  usually I really dislike the &quot;I am a twig and can kick ass&quot; hollywood females of the walking dead, but she was just eerily on point with her lines.

6) the Thief from Crusades, that really could have been a fun character given more time to develop with a more frictioned group on the ship.

7)  Romy and the Sun Avatar, they were pretty incredible until Kevin Sorbo (spit on ground) decided he could write and ruined their characters on the show.  Whoever the new Romy was that Sorbo created for his dabble into porn on the sci fi network, go into the worst actress list.

8) I am going to mention Kes because the actress did a phenomenal job with her,  I personally never liked the role of Kes but I do think that the actress who portrayed her was phenomenal.  I always hoped to see her in something else.

9)There are a lot of good female actresses actually.

10) Ivanava from B5 she added much needed humor to the show and was a memorable character.

I know I&#039;m going to miss someone I love but ce la vie

The Bjorn on TNG and the Doctor who was in TOS and replaced Crusher for a few months added much needed tension on TNG and really made the show interesting for me while they were on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that Star Trek particularly Voyager borrowed from B5&#8211;spotted creatures (Neelix) American Indian (Chicote), Women having strong personalities and leadership roles, there<br />
was a lot more logic behind B5 then Star Trek, the Star Trek one shots are disconcerting in comparison with a logical story arc that has arcs inside that complete and move into another episode.  Much nicer to watch via DVD then Trek is.<br />
The time frames were close, TNG was well before any of the others, but Voyager began in the middle of B5 and DS9 ran during the same time frame.  B5 began in 1993, the show being picked up then had a run til 1999.  The use of the </p>
<p>although B5 did assemble a who&#8217;s who of other sci fi shows.  June Lockhardt (who stole the show during her appearance imo), Will Robinson, Checkov, the kid from the Partridge Family, The second assistant doctor (Sugar Dirt communications officer on the Saratoga), Crusades thief had various cameo appearances here before Crusades, Dude from a few cult shows was the mimbari who sacrificed himself for Delenn, the list goes on, and don&#8217;t forget Nurse Nancy (Mrs Roddenberry herself who made a guest appearance on the show), also the voice of chucky and serial murderer betazoid seen in Voyager was a serial killer turned monk in B5.</p>
<p>&#8220;I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true&#8221;<br />
What elements do you think are borrowed from Trek?<br />
&#8221; Also, Crusades wasn’t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.&#8221;</p>
<p>The writing in Crusades is pretty tough to get through, it shows in how the characters had to act.  Also the Doctor was terribly miscast in this show.  I would have liked a darker anthropologist too.  It did falter in it&#8217;s story line, but it was better than nothing, however, it is the one DVD set that I have not been able to get through twice,  despite generous use of the fast forward.  I liked using the thief in the episode where they find the other sentient species who had been infected with a plague like the Drak plague.  And the air scooter chase was a great visual effect.  </p>
<p>&#8220;To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow. It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A. And Firefly probably shouldn’t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>Firefly only had one season 2002, which shows how truly great it was.  I was not fond of the actress who played the companion in FF otherwise it was a flawless cast.  Jayne was incredibly good.</p>
<p>The only thing that might have saved Crusades is killing off the Doctor and putting in there a woman who actually seemed to understand the pressures she was under,  I had a better feeling that she devoted more time to pedicures and manicures and her hair and make-up and tidying up then she did to any type of scientific endeavor.  Really hated her on Mars side, the first episode where she tries to act tough was incredibly bad.<br />
Her attempts at physical fighting was worse than Lyta trying to punch a guy out mars side.  </p>
<p>I think the rest of the characters were salvageable as long as someone could come in that looked like a regular Joe and actually had a sense of what the hell was going on back in earth, instead of posturing.</p>
<p>So often we go along with female character casting because well that is how it is, but it doesn&#8217;t make it good and it doesn&#8217;t make for a rewatchable show or series.   Which leads me to top worst actresses in sci fi of all time. (not that the actress herself is bad but how the producers make her behave in the role is bad)</p>
<p>3) Counselor Troi (did Picard ever get the stick out of his rear long enough to listen to any advice she ever had as a telepath that wasn&#8217;t already painfully obvious to the rest of the crew?)  I cheered when I thought they had killed her off in one of the movies (Now as an actress she is known as the nicest sweetest blah blah blah, ok that&#8217;s great but still)</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m putting the Trill from DS9 on this because there is no way in holy hell anyone is going to convince me that a Klingon would marry someone who has been a man period.  I stopped watching Ds9 after their romance, and I thought the romance between he and counselor Troi was laughable, (blech)</p>
<p>1) Red Sonja  Brigette whatever, nuf said</p>
<p>4) The Doctor from Crusades &#8212; her voice was so polite one wondered if as she was yelling at someone, that someone didn&#8217;t just filter in a noise control that raised the volume only.</p>
<p>5) The Dr. from TNG Crusher &#8212; she made no sense at all except as a former friend of Picard and someone who could tap dance really well.  She would have been dead within the first three years if she had been left to wonder nicely along in alien worlds.</p>
<p>6)  Whoever the hell the playgirl bunny was that Sorbo cast to replace Romy in Andromeda<br />
&amp;7) Kevin Sorbo in Andromeda, let the women have their damn roles, you don&#8217;t have to be everyone you wussy.</p>
<p>Best Actresses in the roles that they played.</p>
<p>1) 7 of 9 &#8212; my favorite Voyager episode is the one where she is in charge of the stasis units everyone is put into.</p>
<p>2) Captain Janeway,  her performance as a captain was the best in the Trek franchise with the exception of Kirk, she went beyond best actress and is in my top sci fi actors.</p>
<p>3) Shane from SAAB, I do think someone without as many mannerisms would have been better but she was believable as Shane.</p>
<p>4) The entire female cast of Farscape including the bit players.  Chiana was outstanding, the episode where she slept with her lover&#8217;s son and was caught was one of the most memorable and classic Chiana bits.</p>
<p>5) River from Firefly,  usually I really dislike the &#8220;I am a twig and can kick ass&#8221; hollywood females of the walking dead, but she was just eerily on point with her lines.</p>
<p>6) the Thief from Crusades, that really could have been a fun character given more time to develop with a more frictioned group on the ship.</p>
<p>7)  Romy and the Sun Avatar, they were pretty incredible until Kevin Sorbo (spit on ground) decided he could write and ruined their characters on the show.  Whoever the new Romy was that Sorbo created for his dabble into porn on the sci fi network, go into the worst actress list.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I am going to mention Kes because the actress did a phenomenal job with her,  I personally never liked the role of Kes but I do think that the actress who portrayed her was phenomenal.  I always hoped to see her in something else.</p>
<p>9)There are a lot of good female actresses actually.</p>
<p>10) Ivanava from B5 she added much needed humor to the show and was a memorable character.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m going to miss someone I love but ce la vie</p>
<p>The Bjorn on TNG and the Doctor who was in TOS and replaced Crusher for a few months added much needed tension on TNG and really made the show interesting for me while they were on.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top Characters.&lt;br&gt;1) the captains sidekick in Firefly is one of my favorite all time characters. The Actress should have made it in my top five actress category list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) 7 of 9, a vulnerable woman who has metal viruses in her blood stream that help her kick butt without flinching, yeah gotta love that. will tack on the borg to this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Captain Kirk, Scotty, Spock, Ahura, the Dr. Et al.  I took Ahura out of top actress spot because it wasn&#039;t fair to everyone else.  But she would have been in the top 5.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) The Undead from LEXX and forgot about the lizard slave from that series she too should have made it in my top 5.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5) The entire cast of Farscape although Crichton did get annoyingly shrill in the last episodes.  I often wondered if that was because he was the copy instead of the original.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6) The Nietschean (original) from Andromeda, kind of a combo of Dr. Smith meets Coolio and becomes a greek god.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7) the Invitros from Space Above and Beyond, will put in an honorable mention for the captain of the saratoga because of his guitar playing and introduction of a self into the show.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;8) Talon from Earth the final conflict&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;9) the Dreaming Creatures from Earth 2&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;10) The Avatars from Andromeda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;11)  Starbuck from Battlestar Gallactica, she pulled off the role of Starbuck totally she should have made it in my top 10 female roles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;12) Gkar -- and Londo, the entire run of B5 they were awesome.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;13) Reevers from Firefly, they were scary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;14) Thief from Crusades was a character I would have liked to have seen again in another show.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;15) The Great Machine from Epsilon 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top Characters.<br />1) the captains sidekick in Firefly is one of my favorite all time characters. The Actress should have made it in my top five actress category list.</p>
<p>2) 7 of 9, a vulnerable woman who has metal viruses in her blood stream that help her kick butt without flinching, yeah gotta love that. will tack on the borg to this.</p>
<p>3) Captain Kirk, Scotty, Spock, Ahura, the Dr. Et al.  I took Ahura out of top actress spot because it wasn&#39;t fair to everyone else.  But she would have been in the top 5.</p>
<p>4) The Undead from LEXX and forgot about the lizard slave from that series she too should have made it in my top 5.</p>
<p>5) The entire cast of Farscape although Crichton did get annoyingly shrill in the last episodes.  I often wondered if that was because he was the copy instead of the original.</p>
<p>6) The Nietschean (original) from Andromeda, kind of a combo of Dr. Smith meets Coolio and becomes a greek god.</p>
<p>7) the Invitros from Space Above and Beyond, will put in an honorable mention for the captain of the saratoga because of his guitar playing and introduction of a self into the show.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Talon from Earth the final conflict</p>
<p>9) the Dreaming Creatures from Earth 2</p>
<p>10) The Avatars from Andromeda</p>
<p>11)  Starbuck from Battlestar Gallactica, she pulled off the role of Starbuck totally she should have made it in my top 10 female roles.</p>
<p>12) Gkar &#8212; and Londo, the entire run of B5 they were awesome.</p>
<p>13) Reevers from Firefly, they were scary.</p>
<p>14) Thief from Crusades was a character I would have liked to have seen again in another show.</p>
<p>15) The Great Machine from Epsilon 3</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delenn until the 5th season where she fell into a sort of limbo of the actress lost deal.  But she also said one of the most memorable lines in sci fi.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;no earth ships who have ever faced a Membari war cruiser in battle has lived to tell about it save for one, he is behind me, you are before me............................  be someplace else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and they all turn tail and run hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delenn until the 5th season where she fell into a sort of limbo of the actress lost deal.  But she also said one of the most memorable lines in sci fi.</p>
<p>&#8220;no earth ships who have ever faced a Membari war cruiser in battle has lived to tell about it save for one, he is behind me, you are before me&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  be someplace else.</p>
<p>and they all turn tail and run hehe.</p>
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		<description>The way that Star Trek particularly Voyager borrowed from B5--spotted creatures (Neelix) American Indian (Chicote), Women having strong personalities and leadership roles, there &lt;br&gt;was a lot more logic behind B5 then Star Trek, the Star Trek one shots are disconcerting in comparison with a logical story arc that has arcs inside that complete and move into another episode.  Much nicer to watch via DVD then Trek is.&lt;br&gt;The time frames were close, TNG was well before any of the others, but Voyager began in the middle of B5 and DS9 ran during the same time frame.  B5 began in 1993, the show being picked up then had a run til 1999.  The use of the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;although B5 did assemble a who&#039;s who of other sci fi shows.  June Lockhardt (who stole the show during her appearance imo), Will Robinson, Checkov, the kid from the Partridge Family, The second assistant doctor (Sugar Dirt communications officer on the Saratoga), Crusades thief had various cameo appearances here before Crusades, Dude from a few cult shows was the mimbari who sacrificed himself for Delenn, the list goes on, and don&#039;t forget Nurse Nancy (Mrs Roddenberry herself who made a guest appearance on the show), also the voice of chucky and serial murderer betazoid seen in Voyager was a serial killer turned monk in B5.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true&quot;&lt;br&gt;What elements do you think are borrowed from Trek?&lt;br&gt;&quot; Also, Crusades wasn’t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The writing in Crusades is pretty tough to get through, it shows in how the characters had to act.  Also the Doctor was terribly miscast in this show.  I would have liked a darker anthropologist too.  It did falter in it&#039;s story line, but it was better than nothing, however, it is the one DVD set that I have not been able to get through twice,  despite generous use of the fast forward.  I liked using the thief in the episode where they find the other sentient species who had been infected with a plague like the Drak plague.  And the air scooter chase was a great visual effect.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow. It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A. And Firefly probably shouldn’t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Firefly only had one season 2002, which shows how truly great it was.  I was not fond of the actress who played the companion in FF otherwise it was a flawless cast.  Jayne was incredibly good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only thing that might have saved Crusades is killing off the Doctor and putting in there a woman who actually seemed to understand the pressures she was under,  I had a better feeling that she devoted more time to pedicures and manicures and her hair and make-up and tidying up then she did to any type of scientific endeavor.  Really hated her on Mars side, the first episode where she tries to act tough was incredibly bad.&lt;br&gt;Her attempts at physical fighting was worse than Lyta trying to punch a guy out mars side.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the rest of the characters were salvageable as long as someone could come in that looked like a regular Joe and actually had a sense of what the hell was going on back in earth, instead of posturing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So often we go along with female character casting because well that is how it is, but it doesn&#039;t make it good and it doesn&#039;t make for a rewatchable show or series.   Which leads me to top worst actresses in sci fi of all time. (not that the actress herself is bad but how the producers make her behave in the role is bad)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Counselor Troi (did Picard ever get the stick out of his rear long enough to listen to any advice she ever had as a telepath that wasn&#039;t already painfully obvious to the rest of the crew?)  I cheered when I thought they had killed her off in one of the movies (Now as an actress she is known as the nicest sweetest blah blah blah, ok that&#039;s great but still)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) I&#039;m putting the Trill from DS9 on this because there is no way in holy hell anyone is going to convince me that a Klingon would marry someone who has been a man period.  I stopped watching Ds9 after their romance, and I thought the romance between he and counselor Troi was laughable, (blech)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Red Sonja  Brigette whatever, nuf said&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) The Doctor from Crusades -- her voice was so polite one wondered if as she was yelling at someone, that someone didn&#039;t just filter in a noise control that raised the volume only.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5) The Dr. from TNG Crusher -- she made no sense at all except as a former friend of Picard and someone who could tap dance really well.  She would have been dead within the first three years if she had been left to wonder nicely along in alien worlds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6)  Whoever the hell the playgirl bunny was that Sorbo cast to replace Romy in Andromeda&lt;br&gt;&amp;7) Kevin Sorbo in Andromeda, let the women have their damn roles, you don&#039;t have to be everyone you wussy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best Actresses in the roles that they played.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) 7 of 9 -- my favorite Voyager episode is the one where she is in charge of the stasis units everyone is put into.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Captain Janeway,  her performance as a captain was the best in the Trek franchise with the exception of Kirk, she went beyond best actress and is in my top sci fi actors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Shane from SAAB, I do think someone without as many mannerisms would have been better but she was believable as Shane.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) The entire female cast of Farscape including the bit players.  Chiana was outstanding, the episode where she slept with her lover&#039;s son and was caught was one of the most memorable and classic Chiana bits.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5) River from Firefly,  usually I really dislike the &quot;I am a twig and can kick ass&quot; hollywood females of the walking dead, but she was just eerily on point with her lines.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6) the Thief from Crusades, that really could have been a fun character given more time to develop with a more frictioned group on the ship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7)  Romy and the Sun Avatar, they were pretty incredible until Kevin Sorbo (spit on ground) decided he could write and ruined their characters on the show.  Whoever the new Romy was that Sorbo created for his dabble into porn on the sci fi network, go into the worst actress list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;8) I am going to mention Kes because the actress did a phenomenal job with her,  I personally never liked the role of Kes but I do think that the actress who portrayed her was phenomenal.  I always hoped to see her in something else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;9)There are a lot of good female actresses actually.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;10) Ivanava from B5 she added much needed humor to the show and was a memorable character.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know I&#039;m going to miss someone I love but ce la vie&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Bjorn on TNG and the Doctor who was in TOS and replaced Crusher for a few months added much needed tension on TNG and really made the show interesting for me while they were on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that Star Trek particularly Voyager borrowed from B5&#8211;spotted creatures (Neelix) American Indian (Chicote), Women having strong personalities and leadership roles, there <br />was a lot more logic behind B5 then Star Trek, the Star Trek one shots are disconcerting in comparison with a logical story arc that has arcs inside that complete and move into another episode.  Much nicer to watch via DVD then Trek is.<br />The time frames were close, TNG was well before any of the others, but Voyager began in the middle of B5 and DS9 ran during the same time frame.  B5 began in 1993, the show being picked up then had a run til 1999.  The use of the </p>
<p>although B5 did assemble a who&#39;s who of other sci fi shows.  June Lockhardt (who stole the show during her appearance imo), Will Robinson, Checkov, the kid from the Partridge Family, The second assistant doctor (Sugar Dirt communications officer on the Saratoga), Crusades thief had various cameo appearances here before Crusades, Dude from a few cult shows was the mimbari who sacrificed himself for Delenn, the list goes on, and don&#39;t forget Nurse Nancy (Mrs Roddenberry herself who made a guest appearance on the show), also the voice of chucky and serial murderer betazoid seen in Voyager was a serial killer turned monk in B5.</p>
<p>&#8220;I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true&#8221;<br />What elements do you think are borrowed from Trek?<br />&#8221; Also, Crusades wasn’t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.&#8221;</p>
<p>The writing in Crusades is pretty tough to get through, it shows in how the characters had to act.  Also the Doctor was terribly miscast in this show.  I would have liked a darker anthropologist too.  It did falter in it&#39;s story line, but it was better than nothing, however, it is the one DVD set that I have not been able to get through twice,  despite generous use of the fast forward.  I liked using the thief in the episode where they find the other sentient species who had been infected with a plague like the Drak plague.  And the air scooter chase was a great visual effect.  </p>
<p>&#8220;To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow. It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A. And Firefly probably shouldn’t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>Firefly only had one season 2002, which shows how truly great it was.  I was not fond of the actress who played the companion in FF otherwise it was a flawless cast.  Jayne was incredibly good.</p>
<p>The only thing that might have saved Crusades is killing off the Doctor and putting in there a woman who actually seemed to understand the pressures she was under,  I had a better feeling that she devoted more time to pedicures and manicures and her hair and make-up and tidying up then she did to any type of scientific endeavor.  Really hated her on Mars side, the first episode where she tries to act tough was incredibly bad.<br />Her attempts at physical fighting was worse than Lyta trying to punch a guy out mars side.  </p>
<p>I think the rest of the characters were salvageable as long as someone could come in that looked like a regular Joe and actually had a sense of what the hell was going on back in earth, instead of posturing.</p>
<p>So often we go along with female character casting because well that is how it is, but it doesn&#39;t make it good and it doesn&#39;t make for a rewatchable show or series.   Which leads me to top worst actresses in sci fi of all time. (not that the actress herself is bad but how the producers make her behave in the role is bad)</p>
<p>3) Counselor Troi (did Picard ever get the stick out of his rear long enough to listen to any advice she ever had as a telepath that wasn&#39;t already painfully obvious to the rest of the crew?)  I cheered when I thought they had killed her off in one of the movies (Now as an actress she is known as the nicest sweetest blah blah blah, ok that&#39;s great but still)</p>
<p>2) I&#39;m putting the Trill from DS9 on this because there is no way in holy hell anyone is going to convince me that a Klingon would marry someone who has been a man period.  I stopped watching Ds9 after their romance, and I thought the romance between he and counselor Troi was laughable, (blech)</p>
<p>1) Red Sonja  Brigette whatever, nuf said</p>
<p>4) The Doctor from Crusades &#8212; her voice was so polite one wondered if as she was yelling at someone, that someone didn&#39;t just filter in a noise control that raised the volume only.</p>
<p>5) The Dr. from TNG Crusher &#8212; she made no sense at all except as a former friend of Picard and someone who could tap dance really well.  She would have been dead within the first three years if she had been left to wonder nicely along in alien worlds.</p>
<p>6)  Whoever the hell the playgirl bunny was that Sorbo cast to replace Romy in Andromeda<br />&amp;7) Kevin Sorbo in Andromeda, let the women have their damn roles, you don&#39;t have to be everyone you wussy.</p>
<p>Best Actresses in the roles that they played.</p>
<p>1) 7 of 9 &#8212; my favorite Voyager episode is the one where she is in charge of the stasis units everyone is put into.</p>
<p>2) Captain Janeway,  her performance as a captain was the best in the Trek franchise with the exception of Kirk, she went beyond best actress and is in my top sci fi actors.</p>
<p>3) Shane from SAAB, I do think someone without as many mannerisms would have been better but she was believable as Shane.</p>
<p>4) The entire female cast of Farscape including the bit players.  Chiana was outstanding, the episode where she slept with her lover&#39;s son and was caught was one of the most memorable and classic Chiana bits.</p>
<p>5) River from Firefly,  usually I really dislike the &#8220;I am a twig and can kick ass&#8221; hollywood females of the walking dead, but she was just eerily on point with her lines.</p>
<p>6) the Thief from Crusades, that really could have been a fun character given more time to develop with a more frictioned group on the ship.</p>
<p>7)  Romy and the Sun Avatar, they were pretty incredible until Kevin Sorbo (spit on ground) decided he could write and ruined their characters on the show.  Whoever the new Romy was that Sorbo created for his dabble into porn on the sci fi network, go into the worst actress list.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I am going to mention Kes because the actress did a phenomenal job with her,  I personally never liked the role of Kes but I do think that the actress who portrayed her was phenomenal.  I always hoped to see her in something else.</p>
<p>9)There are a lot of good female actresses actually.</p>
<p>10) Ivanava from B5 she added much needed humor to the show and was a memorable character.</p>
<p>I know I&#39;m going to miss someone I love but ce la vie</p>
<p>The Bjorn on TNG and the Doctor who was in TOS and replaced Crusher for a few months added much needed tension on TNG and really made the show interesting for me while they were on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedlam</title>
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		<description>I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true.  Also, Crusades wasn&#039;t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.  

To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow.  It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A.  And Firefly probably shouldn&#039;t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.</description>
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<p>To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow.  It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A.  And Firefly probably shouldn&#8217;t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedlam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true.  Also, Crusades wasn&#039;t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow.  It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A.  And Firefly probably shouldn&#039;t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to go along with how Star Trek borrowed from B5 when it seems to me that the opposite was true.  Also, Crusades wasn&#39;t as bad as it seemed considering that it was a follow-up to one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows in history.  </p>
<p>To me SAAB was the best show on this list, but Crudades would have been even better had it been given time to grow.  It probably would have been more fair to have them as 1 and 1A.  And Firefly probably shouldn&#39;t have been ranked as high as it was considering that they had 4 or 5 seasons plus a fairly successful movie to flesh out characters and stories.</p>
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		<title>By: jeqal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crusades was bad, the dialogue was stilted, and there were serious issues with the characters.  I never liked the doctor that they used, she just wasn&#039;t tough enough for me to believe she would not have caved under.  There were some fun moments but after trying to rewatch it again, forget it.  
Space Above and Beyond (SAAB) was the best written show I have ever seen,  I just rewatched it and am annoyed that I can&#039;t see more episodes.  Needs to be remade but god help us don&#039;t cast these &quot;walking dead&quot; female actresses as leads it won&#039;t fly.  
Notice how Star Trek borrows from B5 and how Firefly borrowed from SAAB.  
Firefly is my second best written sci fi show.  
Trek is wonderful of course but I mean, too many neat bows without enough string to make sense of how they did it.  (Why are there merchants if there is no money and there are no need for merchants with replicators and some biomass, heck in the time frame they are in 20 and 21st century dumping grounds would be enough to fuel at least 1000 years of replicators, who needs the rations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusades was bad, the dialogue was stilted, and there were serious issues with the characters.  I never liked the doctor that they used, she just wasn&#8217;t tough enough for me to believe she would not have caved under.  There were some fun moments but after trying to rewatch it again, forget it.<br />
Space Above and Beyond (SAAB) was the best written show I have ever seen,  I just rewatched it and am annoyed that I can&#8217;t see more episodes.  Needs to be remade but god help us don&#8217;t cast these &#8220;walking dead&#8221; female actresses as leads it won&#8217;t fly.<br />
Notice how Star Trek borrows from B5 and how Firefly borrowed from SAAB.<br />
Firefly is my second best written sci fi show.<br />
Trek is wonderful of course but I mean, too many neat bows without enough string to make sense of how they did it.  (Why are there merchants if there is no money and there are no need for merchants with replicators and some biomass, heck in the time frame they are in 20 and 21st century dumping grounds would be enough to fuel at least 1000 years of replicators, who needs the rations).</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crusades was bad, the dialogue was stilted, and there were serious issues with the characters.  I never liked the doctor that they used, she just wasn&#039;t tough enough for me to believe she would not have caved under.  There were some fun moments but after trying to rewatch it again, forget it.  &lt;br&gt;Space Above and Beyond (SAAB) was the best written show I have ever seen,  I just rewatched it and am annoyed that I can&#039;t see more episodes.  Needs to be remade but god help us don&#039;t cast these &quot;walking dead&quot; female actresses as leads it won&#039;t fly.  &lt;br&gt;Notice how Star Trek borrows from B5 and how Firefly borrowed from SAAB.  &lt;br&gt;Firefly is my second best written sci fi show.  &lt;br&gt;Trek is wonderful of course but I mean, too many neat bows without enough string to make sense of how they did it.  (Why are there merchants if there is no money and there are no need for merchants with replicators and some biomass, heck in the time frame they are in 20 and 21st century dumping grounds would be enough to fuel at least 1000 years of replicators, who needs the rations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusades was bad, the dialogue was stilted, and there were serious issues with the characters.  I never liked the doctor that they used, she just wasn&#39;t tough enough for me to believe she would not have caved under.  There were some fun moments but after trying to rewatch it again, forget it.  <br />Space Above and Beyond (SAAB) was the best written show I have ever seen,  I just rewatched it and am annoyed that I can&#39;t see more episodes.  Needs to be remade but god help us don&#39;t cast these &#8220;walking dead&#8221; female actresses as leads it won&#39;t fly.  <br />Notice how Star Trek borrows from B5 and how Firefly borrowed from SAAB.  <br />Firefly is my second best written sci fi show.  <br />Trek is wonderful of course but I mean, too many neat bows without enough string to make sense of how they did it.  (Why are there merchants if there is no money and there are no need for merchants with replicators and some biomass, heck in the time frame they are in 20 and 21st century dumping grounds would be enough to fuel at least 1000 years of replicators, who needs the rations).</p>
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